The world's most powerful firearm database. Great deal on a 357 magnum! While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. In 1983, the .357 Remington Maximum was released as a joint project between Ruger and Remington. It works out to about the same as a heavy loaded 38-55 in a Marlin 336. A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. Lite recoil and is deadly. Kept that gun quite a few years, took it out to shoot every now and then. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. Going price was 399.they didnt have any..but said they had a 45 Long Colt at a discount 299easy decision. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. It was too intense and very finicky. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. Use only MAGNUM Rifle primers in .357 Maximum loads. Barrel has only been to the range for load development. Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. The topstrap cutting kept on but eventually stopped. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. Here is a link to an article that may answer some questions. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Just ask! Yup. Lil Gun is proving to be one of the very best powders for maximum performance in any barrel length, while AA-1680 is still gaining a little more speed per inch in 24 barrels. Long guns get in the way. Id like to, but my current living situation and potential job changes/living situations dont allow for me to set up an area for reloading. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . Or if you are willing to pay $1500-1,750 you get a Mikoru Japan made Winchester 92 Takedown rifle. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. Now Rechambering Henry Single Shot .357 Magnum Rifles! My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. Im just trying to figure out why in the hell a Marlin 357 lever gun has to retail at nearly 3 times what the same gun in 30-30 retails for. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. Metallic silhouette shooters found it both accurate and very good at taking steel plates off a rail. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. And of course the popular, accurate Dan Wesson revolvers came out with a long frame, long cylinder Max. Mounted basic fixed sights on it. For full power loads like 30 gr. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. Get your barrels customized early for next season! Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. One example would be the Savage Model 24 combination rifle/shotgun. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. You have my (good natured) envy. And dont let anyone tell you that lever actions are slow. Item Number: 534259137. marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. Own Stock. No joke. Since MSRP is only $1,069, its Winchesters entry-level lever gunbut its far from entry-level quality. *We Never share your email without your permission. Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. Jan 23, 2014. The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. Apparently it was a regular thing. https://www.rincolnia.com/images/Public/38SPL_SUPP.mp4. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. All your beautiful $2,000 semi-auto rifles will be illegal, while excellent, used $500 Marlins will disappear from the market. 1 single-shot rifle in .357 Magnum, extra rifles without the CHP markings were offered through employee sales. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. Made in 1983, serial 600-02396 has a 10.5-inch barrel, blade front sight, adjustable rear sight, transfer bar and wood grips. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and. 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . A number of employees punched these rifles out to .357 Maximum and were very happy with the field results. Not everything has to be tactically sound. Thats a LOL. I really am not trying to get a caliber war started but, I think the .357 mag is about the perfect handgun round. Best place to find squirrels in in a deer stand with a 30-06. Mark Penrod is one. Who needs a semi auto rifle. Loads for .357 Magnum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. lets say it was well used and not maintained. Make sure to watch till the end. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. . Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. The 8 grains of unique seem like fairly hot loads out of the rifle. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. Last time I went hunting. Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. Read Their Fine Print!! I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. $1,379.99. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. The original factory loading was a relatively fragile 158-grain JHP similar to those Remington loaded in the .357 Magnum. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! My Name. 45-70. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon scope H&R 490 Topper Jr 20 ga, barrel cut to 21.5" threaded to Rem Chokes. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. . In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 The one that went directly back to gun store was likely 2018 or 2019 but was still new in box. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. .357 caliber bullets (from left to right) 158 gr XTP, 180 gr XTP, 200 gr FTX, New 357 Rem Max casing. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. 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First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". They should come from the factory that way. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Remington and Ruger eventually . As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Common sense Gun Safety . Low dollar lever gun joy is in your future. 16.5" threaded barrel (1/2x28). ALL factory handgun ammo is impossible to obtain now in the Covid 19 and Defund the Police world we live in now. Its blue with a 16.5 inch barrel. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Many people download it and get unburnt . Some of the smaller single-action companies produced their version. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: Caint answer Ur ? The max lead . by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post Really puts a pop in the round. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. My lever lust may remain unquenched. I sold my 1980s Marlin 357 in 1996 for 450 to a guy who would not buy a new Marlin with a safety button. I have become a fan. Risking twice that? Looking for 170-190gr bullet loads and a plinking load for a hard cast GC/cheep jacketed bullet. 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. The werent lever actions. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. I use handguns for everyday carry. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. Levers are light, easy to carry with quick target acquisition and reliability. Due to the additional costs of internet sales, shipping, etc., our internet pricing may vary from our In-Store price. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. I enjoyed your article. Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. Free shipping for many products! Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. The world's most powerful firearm database. From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns, Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway, Rossi Model 92 357 Mag, Case Color Receiver. The Henry Big Boy Classic is as close to the original lever gun as it gets without having to look for .44 rimfire. I agree, a lever gun in the .357 Max would be quite the setup. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. Fully agree with this. Thanks for reading! lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job. 38 special. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. Based on the Encore being ok for the 270, up to 65,000 psi is Ok. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. Dont believe me?? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! The receiver was warped slightly outward, he pressed it back into line. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. A bit heavy, if I had to buy it again, Id pick a shorter, lighter barrel version but I am not unhappy with the gun. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. BTW, next to .357 Mag in the combo, my next favorite choice would be the set in .44 Mag. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. Why? The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. Is taught at the Range! Bingo. I was looking for a 357 trapper at Dons gun in Indy in the early 90s. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. Ive had a similar experience. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. Winchester Model 1873. Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. Have you tried hand-loading and experimenting with overall length? .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post What would be the right bullet? hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. With the added velocity and muzzle energy, along with the fact that JHP rounds are easily available from any gun store, whereas frangible or JHP rounds for an AR-pattern rifle are harder to source, it makes one of the best home defense long guns possible. Remember the name Glenfeild. and especially their 180 gr. If you want to. Brand: Winchester. They show up now and again and they are a really fine rifle. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. The .357 Rem. Carbine length Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. Used Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA 2-3/4 or 3" shell,Top break action, Reciever is a case hardened finish. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Ha! And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post 30-30 is always a good option. 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May be possible to make a single shot but it would be costly. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Less than 100 days away now. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. CHECK FOR EXCESS PROTRUSION OF THE CASE FROM THE END OF THE BARREL BEFORE FIRING! MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. But do you know how to properly use them? A . It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. Lever action rifles are fun. This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. New in the Box. TX residents add 8.25% sales tax. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. 357 Remington Maximum Load Data Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. Such a great gun I wish theyd never discontinued them. (Ive been running 7 grains for handgun loads.). Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. It too feeds with no problems but is more work to make. Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames., I have to agree. I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.) To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms.
