You can also buy a power meter upgrade kit (but not a complete groupset) with 52/39t, 54/41t and 56/43t rings. A Force eTap AXS group with a similar set-up weighs 2,600 grams, a difference of 183 grams. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Shifting is actuated by switches on the brake levers, which send a signal to the derailleurs to do their thing. You recharge the battery via a port on the rear mech. After three years riding the original eTap in its various rim and disc brake guises Ive been very impressed. Expect a full test of this new Orca soon, but Ill just say its a bike thats every bit as impressive as the gearing its running. Weight 169g. the gap between the next sprocket up and next sprocket down is bigger. Even better, theyre now available consumer direct and in select shops in the U.S. and Canada. All rights reserved. Weight weighed: kA. Year 2022 There are similar, less visible material choices other components. Both the SRAM AXS and the Shimano E-Tube smartphone apps allow complete customisation of your shifting. Shift speed, to me, is a critical determinant in any drivetrain, and Red failed in my view in that regard. The lack of any real critical analysis here is disappointing and lacks any credibility. Rival AXS rear derailleurs use a more traditional mechanical clutch. With the same chainrings, the aluminum Rival crankset weighs 100 grams more than the carbon Force crankset. Which leads me to the last big change: Gearing. Highlights. The Rival crankset uses polished aluminum arms that are stiff, tough, and come in a variety of lengths (160mm-175mm). Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. The lack of chain slap was nice, but as a complete system, the overall quietness of it surprised me. Cassettes are 11-28 (or closest) We've removed bottom bracket weight as these are frame dependant. SRAM Red eTap AXS 12-speed Wireless electronic shifting Rim brake and disc brake options 10-tooth smallest sprocket requires XDR driver freehub body Orbit Fluid damper rear derailleur Power. Also note that since as standard the power meter is integrated into the chainrings, which SRAM says it's done to ensure the best accuracy, you need to replace this too when you replace the rings. Both SRAM RED and Force crank arms are carbon; SRAM RED having direct mount chainrings for 2x, and both SRAM RED and Force having a 1x spider that works with 1x 107mm BCD chainrings. AXS might be the perfectly executed product to change my mind. Heres a full list of everything you can buy as of February 2019, SRAM Eagle AXS Mountain Bike Group Tech Overview, Unboxed! It uses the same batteries as the eTap but the design looks more robust and angular, and is also running on larger X-Sync pulleys and ceramic bearings under the surface. Gear percentages, as seen in the above chart, refer to the gear range of the cassette, or the difference between highest and lowest available gears. Whereas the previous generation Dura-Ace's levers were a miracle of miniaturisation, the R9200 ones have actually grown a bit so they're just slightly smaller than SRAM's. With the exception of a brake warranty issue (albeit a pretty big one), this is hardly the truth. 33T: 33T=5mm / 30T=10mm / 28T=10mm / 26T=14mm (chain in largest sprocket) Rear derailleur max. Thanks! Thats all they had available at the launch, but Ive pulled the left arm and cassette off our demo bike and added those weights to the post. Would you like to receive offers, updates and events from BikeRadar and its publisher Our Media Ltd (an Immediate Group Company)? The action is smoother, quieter and arguably quicker than the first generation, and its adaptability, in that you can run it 2x, 1x, or combine it with any of the new AXS mountain bike gearing launching soon, is impressive, making this an electronic groupset you could run on the road, gravel, cross, mountain and downhill. Shimano gives you more flexibility with how this is configured, although this does increase the chances of getting a configuration that doesn't work well. Sign up to receive BikeRumor content direct to your inbox. Always a strong suit of SRAM, the braking is better than ever, looking and feeling like something dedicated for the road and not something cobbled from a mountain bike parts bin. It's also allowed Shimano to separate the upshift and downshift levers a bit more widely, reducing the risk of mis-shifting which was an issue particularly when wearing heavier winter gloves. Gone is the two-ring design held in place by bolts on a spider. Weight according to the manufacturer: kA. It's more comfortable than a smaller lever as hand pressure is distributed over a larger area but might be less easy to grip for smaller hands. SRAM Red eTap AXS and Shimano Dura-Ace are both now 12-speed and electronic only and both have wireless comms between the shifters and the derailleurs. Cyclocross Magazine got an early look at the new products in March and brings you the details and differences compared to the SRAM Red eTap AXS components. Keep in mind that no one makes a Red AXS chain compatible chainring yet except SRAM, and only for their proprietary BCDs and direct-mount 8-bolt arms. Heres all of our tech stories from the SRAM AXS launch event: Tyler Benedict is the Founder of Bikerumor.com. So, the short answer is, it didnt feel any faster, but I liked the speed of the original eTap (and this new one) just fine. SRAM Gravel SRAM XPLR Scope of delivery: 1x SRAM RED XG-1290 rainbow 12-speed cassette. Since top end mountain bikes have been 12-speed for several years, the XTR chain has been proven to be robust. He has covered all the major innovations in cycling this century, and reported from launches, trade shows and industry events in Europe, Asia, Australia, North American and Africa. Warranty: Multiple Warranties and/or Time Frames Apply. Beginners or triathletes pure gold right there! This also means that, unlike SRAM Red eTap AXS, you can swap the chainrings on a Dura-Ace power meter chainset without needing to replace the power meter. Upon reflection, I wasnt constantly chasing that sweet spot thats so elusive on something like a 50/34 combo. And, hes totally gone down the NFT rabbit hole. SRAM took a new approach to road bike gearing with Red eTap AXS. So SRAM Red cassettes are offered in four options. The shift buttons get a bit of texture and hood covers are softer and patterned for better grip. SRAM has a great marketing team and some good innovations but I dont think they respect the end user as much. Is there even a pro world tour team riding Sram anymore? SRAM RED eTap AXS 1X D1 Electronic HDR Flatmount Groupset $2,654.00 Was $3,792.00 SRAM Force eTap AXS 1X D1 Electronic HRD Flat Mount Groupset $2,218.99 Sram X01 Eagle AXS Upgrade Kit Red $1,450.99 Sram XX1 Eagle AXS Upgrade Kit Carbon $1,812.99 Sram X01 Eagle AXS Upgrade Kit Lunar $1,449.99 SRAM GX Eagle AXS Upgrade Kit Lunar Grey This pushes up the top end ratio slightly to satisfy the ever-increasing speeds of pro racers, but also leads to a more efficient chainline when riding faster. It's geared to flat time trials as well as gravel, with larger rings designed to be aero. Honestly I would not, because the existing system is still so good. Theres a limit as to how fast you can move the chain from one cog to the next and still have it engage the teeth properly, and the multi-shift (holding down the shifter to run up or down multiple cogs at a time) is already pushing that limit. 2023 Merida ONE-SIXTY 6000 Gives a Reassuring, Responsive Ride | Review, Lezyne Digital Travel Floor Drive Pump Brings Big Features to Miniature Design, Suplest Edge+ 2.0 Cancellara Edition Road Shoe Brings Brand to North America, Granite Designs Quiver Tool Roll Stores, Stashes, and Straps Anywhere, GoFundMe Supports Two Cyclists Killed, 17 Injured in AZ Car Accident, Podcast #077 First Endurance dives deep on sports nutrition, Paragon Machine Works Celebrates 40 Years With Limited-Edition Multitool & Bottle Opener, Shimano Special Editions: Tropical Leaves With Lazer & Champagne for Spring Classics, Road 2x (48/35 combo) 419g with powermeter, Road 1x (48t X-Sync) 395g with powermeter, Shifters 233g/234g with coin cell batteries installed, Rear brake caliper 158g (with spacer, so subtract a couple grams). After a few months of testing, eTap AXS has surpassed my expectations. Meaning, you no longer have to make front shifts, you simply press one side to go easier and the other side to go harder, then it shifts front and/or rear for you to run through the gears in the most appropriate sequence. The Rival cassette uses a fully pinned design, where 12 individual cogs are pinned together, increasing the weight by about 20 grams over a comparable Force cassette. And its nice to have options. Graduations: 10-28 or 10-33 teeth. You can slow it down via the app if it's too fast for you. How is that possible on a decade old groupset? SRAM says that this ability to absorb water is an advantage if you do get damp in your brakes, as it means that it's less likely there will be free water droplets in the hoses than with an oil-based system, where it would boil at 100C and so potentially impact performance. You can also pair Shimano's Di2 mountain bike derailleur and levers with Shimano's road equivalents. SRAMs mechanical groupsets have always been an outstanding value (same functional parts across all levels), so why not save the cash for other fun things, right? Still seems a little rich for my blood especially when ultegra di2 shift groups can be found for 800 bucks new and the replacement parts are cheap for when you crash. The problem with this, however, is that the bigger range of gears in an 11-speed cassette mean bigger jumps for the chain, which puts the system under stress, with less predictable chain jumps. The pics show only the drive side arm crank weightedso not sure if 395g with powermeter refers to the whole crank or to only one arm (this latter case would make no sense). SRAM Red eTap AXS XPLR drivetrain review The gravel variant of SRAM's top-tier shifting Our rating 4.0 USD $1,610.00 Rear derailleur, cassette, crankset By Warren Rossiter Published:. SRAM says that it's engineered its chainrings to up their longevity by 50% over its older 11-speed groupsets. Shimano Dura-Ace vs SRAM Red eTap AXS: The two leading groupsets head to head. You will not be able to swap between 2x and 1x set-ups like you can with the Force and Red cranksets. In comparison, Shimano's crankset is created using the brand's Hollowtech II technology. Yeah I figured, but I have to fix my bathroom and rotten plumbing first so Im like 4 months out at least. Clicking on the right-hand button moves the rear derailleur to larger sprockets, while a click on the left-hand button takes you to smaller sprockets. Personally, Id probably not use this option very much, but its fun to experiment with. Most of the downsides with AXS clearly arent going to be present with a brand new drivetrain. Red cassettes are machined out of a single block of steel to minimize weight. In the world of bike tech game-changing is a hyperbolic phrase that gets bandied left, right and centre. While the electronics and all that have been improved to be faster, my experience was that the shifting itself felt the same as prior eTap. Integration for the sake of integration isnt smart, its self indulgent and doesnt actually serve the end user. Suplests 2023 cycling shoe lineup has sleek options for road, gravel, XC, and trail, and they all look amazing. Not so much. Shimano is total opposite. They are compatible with 135mm, 142mm, and 148mm Boost rear axle spacing. It can be used with 1x or 2x drivetrains and is compatible with all X-Range cassette options fitting up to a 36-tooth cog. Both SRAM Red eTap AXS and Shimano Dura-Ace are performance groupsets, both are each brand's top-end products and both are used by the pro racers on the international stage. Using this, the brand is able to create a hollow crank arm while maintaining stiffness and decreasing weight. 2023 SRAM Force AXS & XPLR groups updated with lighter, better tech. That type of publicity is infinitely more effective than being the official drive-train sponsor of some random WT team. Ummmm no, they just downsized things. Just as the original eTap had plenty of innovative touches, so does the new kid in town. AXS app allows users to customize shift options. I dont mind it until Im at race wattage and then its a first world problem because the shifting is noticeably slower than di2 of any gen. Ive got 7970 still and it shifts faster than AXS. Many thanks!! Just dont pretend that either have been hitting the others nail on the head. Check out the charts and graphs on the new ratios in our launch coverage for the full story, but heres the nutshell: Three different front chainring combos all share 13-tooth jumps between small and large rings. The SRAM Red AXS chainset has the two chainrings machined out of one block of material instead of being held together by chainring bolts like Shimano's groupsets. Although the shift speed increase is greater at the rear, it's more noticeable at the front. Numerous reviews have been written but none that I have read comment on what is in my opinion, Reds biggest shortcoming noticeably slower shift speed relative to Di2 and for that matter mechanical. There's a battery indicator LED on the shift paddle to show you when it's running low. But with a Force AXS group coming in April, that would be good timing. Complete the kit with a matching helmet from Lazer. The two biggest differences from Di2 are that Red eTap shifting is wireless, and the AXS incarnations has 12 sprockets on the rear hub, with a significantly different approach to gearing centered on its 10-tooth smallest sprocket. Here they are. Is there anything worse than fumbling around for bits and bobs that just wont be found? Rival AXS shifters pair with any other component in the AXS line-up, including Eagle AXS rear derailleurs, for riders interested in a wide-range mullet set-up a 10-50T cassette with a single chainring. Front shifts are more positive and completely accurate, even when shifting over broken surfaces as the rear mechs damper increases the chain tension and prevents any chatter and bounce. Hes also a regular presenter on the BikeRadar Podcast and on BikeRadars YouTube channel. All these sites are paid to promote therefore we cant expect them to be BRUTALLY honest because that means a blacklist from the sponsors in future. Everything from the overall AXS system that would control future wireless components from SRAM, Rockshox and more, to the actual new RED eTap AXS road group and its Eagle mountain bike counterpart. The Rival AXS rear derailleur uses a spring clutch that improves chain retention over rough surfaces and keeps the drivetrain quiet and free of chain slap. 121 people watching This 2022 BASIC Bikes Carbon Gravel Bike mit Rival AXS, Carbon Laufradsatz, Titanschrauben, leicht und schnell - Other SRAM is a frame size 52. SRAMs break with traditional gear ratios has meant some radical design changes chainset included. A lot to process. Rival AXS provides a more affordable alternative to the Force eTap AXS group and the top-of-the-line Red eTap AXS group. Warren Rossiter is BikeRadar and Cycling Plus magazines senior technical editor for road and gravel. I could never willingly pay money for shimanos mehcanical mtb shifting over SRAMs. We review Rival AXS's weight, pricing, and how it compares to Force AXS and Red AXS groups. It's worth noting though that this means that once a chainring is worn you need to replace both. The picture shows that the RDs weight is 297g and not 247g (and that would be closer to the claimed 303g). Why cant shimano be wireless yet? Sign in to manage your newsletter preferences. Shimano Dura-Ace and SRAM Red eTap AXS both have very distinctive designs, but both are very functional. I wasnt constantly chasing that sweet spot thats so elusive on something like a 50/34 combo. Whats the weight for the entire crankset? One thing that isnt mentioned here is that the powermeter is built into the rings, thus once you wear the rings out, you have to buy a new powermeter. The first ten sprockets are machined together, as are the largest two. Its a little reminiscent of a BMX/Track half link, but these are full length links, The new XG-1290 cassette starts from a 10-tooth sprocket and is compatible with XD-R freehubs, The RED eTap AXS shifters are essentially the same shape as the previous shifter but with a carbon and chrome makeover and a new more ergonomic hood cover, AXS means both 1x and 2x drivetrains, but 1x doesnt just mean cross and gravel, SRAM also has this new 1x aero chainset for TT and triathlon with a spider mounted Quarq power meter option, The cross 1x chainset also has a power meter option, If youre not a fan of disc brakes SRAM also offers the new eTap with a rim brake option, A fluid damper built into the rear mech takes care of chain retention meaning eTap is now an option for cyclocross and gravel riders, With SRAMs AXS app (for iOS and Android) you can run firmware updates to the system (and power meter), look at battery levels, and assign actions to the shifters, as well as add-on blip controls and activate the shift modes, SRAMs reworking of gear ratios compared to its Shimano equivalents, SRAMs range of gearing offers a wider spread than we would have imagined, The new rear mech uses the exiting eTap battery as does the front mech, SRAM has finally produced a dedicated rotor for the road, and with its sculpted carrier and stainless (round-edged) brake track it looks the business, The new cassette keeps a close ratio of single-tooth jumps for the first seven sprockets, Ive been riding the new eTap for a few months now on Orbeas new Orca, which is available with the new eTap and Mavic Cosmic carbon Pro UST wheels and FSA K-Force carbon finsihing kit for 7,649. Small gains in aerodynamics here or weight loss from a bikes chassis there are often breathlessly described as game-changing, when in fact theyre merely reasonable, expected gains brought about through refinement by clever sorts. The combination on the new tooth patterning and increase in clearance means that shifts across the rear block are sharper than before and impeccably smooth and quiet. A couple of advantages to this are that it's easy to take the battery off and recharge it somewhere convenient with SRAM's recharging cradle and that if one battery goes flat (usually the rear) you can swap them about and keep going. Overall, the group offers a not just a refreshing new take on what a road bike drivetrain can be, but also opens the doors for some pretty amazing things in the future. With Rival, more riders can upgrade their ride with a fully wireless design, X-Range gearing, and an integrated Quarq power meter. Want more? Fresh graphics with subtle-yet-shiny paint catch the eye, and the one-piece chainrings and slimmer brake hoods. Do they work? Di2 is faster and better in my opinion and from a performance standpoint, that matters. There isnt an added value for R&D in sponsoring 1000 riders worldwide vs 100 (made up numbers). That doesnt mean they cant be easily anticipated or quickly deduced. This number is then doubled to provide total power for the right and left leg. Who knows, thats why we have a long term review bike/group to test. Newer Post , Get early access to sales and new products, South Georgia & South Sandwich Islands (GS $). Each shifter operates on a CR2032 coin cell which should last for around two years. SRAM Red eTap AXS brake/shift levers have a large single paddle each. The Takeaway: New parts offer lower gearing options for SRAM's eTap AXS 12-speed groups. Some of their mountain drivetrains are so sensitive to cable tension its annoying as hell. Not sure where youre getting your info. That means that there's a range of Red XPLR eTap AXS components, including a rear derailleur with 44 tooth maximum sprocket capacity that works with a 12-speed XPRL cassette with 10-44t range. Force cassettes use a mini cluster hybrid design, where the four small cogs are machined out of a single block of steel, and then eight additional cogs are individually pinned together to form the cassette. Real weight for the 1x Red eTap AXS full crankset including the 40T chainring is 510g. A remote mount for the battery would give even more clearance at the front derailleur. Its rather odd that sluggish shifting was the biggest complaint that a lot of people had about eTap v1, and it seems like SRAM hasnt addressed it to any significant degree. The photos seem to show only the chainring and drive side crank arm. Published 1 March 23. Sponsoring teams IS marketing. Shimano 12-speed cassettes are backward compatible with its 11-speed freehubs. Impossible_Beach_552 5 mo. SRAM Force opts for a two piece caliper design instead of the monobloc calipers found on RED, which results in weights of 166g and 180g for the front and rear brake respectively with full length hoses, 160mm rotor adapters with hardware, and a pad spacer. Note that the former gives you a 1:1 lowest ratio when paired to the wider range 11-34t cassette, matching SRAM's lowest range configuration. The brake levers are aluminum, and the lever reach is adjustable so you can personalize your fit. FWIW, Ive asked several times when the mechanical 12-speed groups are coming and only getting radio silence, so Im guessing they simply dont want to spoil the surprise. Wolf Tooth is working on one but its a little further out. You'll save yourself around 100g by opting for Dura-Ace over Red eTap, although the latest 12-speed Dura-Ace is actually a few grams heavier than the older 11-speed version; it looks as if the quest for ever-lower groupset weights may have peaked. Weight:.84 ounces. Enjoyed your comments Tyler. This design, XDR, is close to XD (and compatible with the use of a small spacer). But as is, Ill need someone to assuage my valid concerns about the direction SRAM is taking. The SRAM AXS app is used to configure its electronic groupsets. My response was specifically regarding shift speed. SRAM Force eTap AXS groupset options, weights, and pricing are as follows; Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (1,983g): RRP AU$2099 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (2,453g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,572g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,812g): RRP AU$3,399 Hood included; . As traditional freehub bodies are too big to allow anything smaller than an 11, SRAM chose to use a variation on the aforementioned XD Driver it pioneered on its 1x mountain bikes (and which has already been seen on 1x groups on road, cyclocross and gravel bikes). It's worth noting though that Shimano's rear mechs also come packed full of tech, including the brand's Shadow design which is borrowed from its mountain bike groupsets. A new $249 spindle-based Quarq power meter. Rival is only available with hydraulic disc brakes. For the road test, I was handed a Trek Checkpoint gravel bike equipped with the new eTap AXS parts, Zipp 303 tubeless ready wheels and the bike brands sweet vibration damping tech. It's set to cost. > SRAM unleashed a whole new concept of gearing and gear ratios. A Force eTap AXS group with a similar set-up weighs 2,600 grams, a difference of 183 grams. Both of those features make the best fit possible for any rider. eTap is the next generation, electronic shifting system from SRAM, replacing their famous mechanical shifting, the Double Tap. Power meter upgrade (spindle only) - $249, Front derailleur (battery not included) - $175, Rear derailleur (battery not included) - $370. The hood shape for the Rival eTap AXS shifter has changed to a narrower grip than Force or Red. Rather, it means that you can set shift points within the app to make it work better for your style of riding and allow the rear derailleur to drop or gain 1-2 gears when you shift the front. Its the strongest chain SRAMs ever produced, apparently. Strangely none of the reviewers thought it relevant. Both also let you fit satellite shifters elsewhere on your bars. Force coming in April. Works like a charm and IMHO shifts better now than it did with the force chainring. Shimano's shifting is also faster than SRAM's and significantly faster than the old 11-speed Dura-Ace. Over the years, Warren has written about thousands of bikes and tested more than 2,500 from budget road bikes to five-figure superbikes. The days of riders pushing huge gears with a tiny rear block are well and truly over, as ideas and beliefs over physiological efficiency change. Thats something you could have noted. You can also check battery status in the SRAM AXS phone app (see below). There are no wires to route through the frame, which simplifies setup. The Sequential mode effectively turns it into a big 1x system by automatically shifting the front and rear together all the way up and down the range. The 48/35 and an 11-28 is the equivalent of a 52/36 with an 11-28 cassette. Manage Settings Firstly, it can operate sequentially, where you just shift up or down. To pair with the Rival AXS 12-speed chainrings and cassettes, there is a matching Rival AXS Flattop chain. With its 12-speed groupsets, rather than develop new road-specific parts Shimano has used some components from its MTB range, one of which is the chain. The frame is made out of carbon and the condition is Brand New. Ive ridden the group and theres no friction to be found. The reduction in the chains size has meant that it has more clearance than the previous model when its sitting on a sprocket i.e. Rival and Force chains also use solid pins while Red uses lighter, hollow pins. Now, you should be able to easily clear a 70045 (frame/rim/tire dependent, of course), which is about as big as most of us are likely to run on a 2x setup. Cassette weight has been added already. The AXS technology allows you to make your shifters do what you want them to, and the brake levers have a customizable reach. Plus, it applied a hard wearing shiny finish for good measure. The upside is that all new products moving forward (at least for the next couple years) will be built on this platform and be cross compatible. SRAM seems to be kicking Shimanos butt across the board- mountain and now road. Once the bike is configured, wires dont necessarily matter, though wireless if obviously superior in concept. Its based on Quarqs top of the range D-Zero unit and offers plenty of metrics, including left-right balance. It requires a hub with an XDR driver body and is available in 10-30t and 10-36t configurations. The Rival AXS front derailleur is optimized for X-Range chainrings and uses Yaw technology, so theres no need for trim to compensate for extreme gear combinations. Prior to that, Tyler launched and built multiple sports nutrition brands and consumer goods companies, mostly as an excuse to travel to killer riding locations throughout North America. The Orbea Orca, which Ive been running AXS on, is equipped with two blips mounted under the tape on the underside of the bars top, so you can shift gears when riding holding the tops while on a long, steady climb.
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